tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post473094525999957129..comments2023-09-22T20:01:14.318-04:00Comments on Kyra Speaks: Jerry Hicks Undergoing Chemotherapykyrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09231777917185762352noreply@blogger.comBlogger160125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-51658468387608397512013-02-08T07:49:07.505-05:002013-02-08T07:49:07.505-05:00Interesting... No one here thought that maybe Jerr...Interesting... No one here thought that maybe Jerry wasn't aligned when he got cancer or even that maybe Jerry didn't want to heal from it. And the most important thing is if you believe is not true, then it's not true. But, you know, all is well. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-18195470988862334312012-10-02T17:15:00.173-04:002012-10-02T17:15:00.173-04:00Hey Anonymous,
Thanks for the comment. Glad to kn...Hey Anonymous,<br /><br />Thanks for the comment. Glad to know that this information helped you. Good luck with finding a publisher for your book.kyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231777917185762352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-25461397630893799742012-10-02T15:54:30.427-04:002012-10-02T15:54:30.427-04:00Kyra,
Last Thursday, I decided to search the inter...Kyra,<br />Last Thursday, I decided to search the internet for a publisher for a book that I am writing. Whilst doing so I discovered this Abraham Hicks thing. I was blown away by the whole new level that LOA was explained. I became curious and was constantly listening to anything I could put my hand on, I began looking for their books and even discussed it with a few people who must think that I am loosing it by now......lol. Nevertheless, I write to thank you for this blog as it will definitely save me a lot of time and emotions which would have been invested in getting to know more about Esther and Jerry Hicks. Thank You again!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-2797697097931575812012-04-06T13:48:44.328-04:002012-04-06T13:48:44.328-04:00Or anony doesn't know what author means...
Th...Or anony doesn't know what author means...<br /><br />This comment has been removed by the AUTHOR.Clarity~https://www.blogger.com/profile/08728496373695948171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-54105730134983347302012-04-05T23:25:31.795-04:002012-04-05T23:25:31.795-04:00Anony: "I see a lot of comments have been rem...Anony: "I see a lot of comments have been removed by Kyra, so, I don't think mine will have much future here either. Let's try anyway.<br /><br /><br />There's much more to say on the treatment of cancer, but even this little comment will probably be deleted as it is..."<br /><br /> <br />You must be confusing this site with the Abe Forum. Unlike the heavily moderated AF, Kyra's blog actually allows one to think independently and not as part of a herd. In other words, varying opinions are allowed.Tinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-79975471783161247252012-04-04T18:55:25.618-04:002012-04-04T18:55:25.618-04:00@ Anony~
I've never known Kyra to delete comm...@ Anony~<br /><br />I've never known Kyra to delete comments. She's more fair than I would be letting posts go through that are specifically designed to be off the wall and inflammatory. When posts reach a certain level you have to click 'load more' as the page only loads to a certain number.<br /><br />And on cancer...I agree. I would never do chemo etc...but I also would not sit on my duff and do a happy sticker thinking it would take care of the issue. With my extensive knowledge of alternative therapies I would take action in alignment with intention. What is considered proven/not proven is a matter of selected criteria that personal viewpoint gives or invalidates credibility of. I just happen to share your viewpoint. We can all agree however that thinking happy thoughts and ignoring 'what is' might not be in one's best interest.Clarity~https://www.blogger.com/profile/08728496373695948171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-71950716966447401672012-04-04T14:41:22.035-04:002012-04-04T14:41:22.035-04:00Hey Anonymous,
Not sure what you mean about me re...Hey Anonymous,<br /><br />Not sure what you mean about me removing comments. I rarely remove comments and only at the request of their authors. As you can see within the comments that are posted, I don't shy away from criticism or debate.<br /><br /><i>Just a thing that always baffles me, is how anyone can recommend conventional medicine, with it's use of poison (chemo) and radiation, both known carcinogens, to 'heal' cancer, and talk about it as if this kind of barbarian treatment is in any way 'modern'. If it wasn't so sad, it would really be a laugh.</i><br /><br />I have never said that chemo was not a barbaric form of treatment. However, if it comes down to me using a healing system that has no proven effectiveness at treating cancer (i.e. Teachings of Abraham) and one that has some proven effectiveness (chemo), I will opt for the one that has <i>some</i> proven effectiveness.kyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231777917185762352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-60255654770455339782012-04-04T14:11:31.949-04:002012-04-04T14:11:31.949-04:00I see a lot of comments have been removed by Kyra,...I see a lot of comments have been removed by Kyra, so, I don't think mine will have much future here either. Let's try anyway.<br /><br />Just a thing that always baffles me, is how anyone can recommend conventional medicine, with it's use of poison (chemo) and radiation, both known carcinogens, to 'heal' cancer, and talk about it as if this kind of barbarian treatment is in any way 'modern'. If it wasn't so sad, it would really be a laugh.<br /><br />There's much more to say on the treatment of cancer, but even this little comment will probably be deleted as it is...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-76752406631879258902012-04-02T16:49:59.028-04:002012-04-02T16:49:59.028-04:00Hi folks - not sure who you are or where exactly I...Hi folks - not sure who you are or where exactly I am but the information on this page has helped -- I was bit by a spider yesterday and I was wondering if I should notify my Dr since I am currently going thru chemo for breast cancer~! Weird, Huh?~! Now my questions have been answered because some man named Jerry is taking chemo to his own spider bite~! World works in mysterious ways -- Love and thanks to all! Anne - sw florida coastannielouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261952587120804087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-7661952485911225902012-03-30T02:25:56.544-04:002012-03-30T02:25:56.544-04:00I can't help but lightly grieve for those who ...I can't help but lightly grieve for those who are still posting to that board, indoctrinated in so much Abe-speak. One woman on there has over 14,000 posts. <br /><br />14,000. re: 'Abe' stuff?.... just shoot me now.<br /><br />There was a guy there named Mike who was something of a pal of mine, we would both post about objects of affection that we were pining over. <br /><br />In retrospect, it was clear to see that our romantic interests were 'the ones that got away' and would never be anything more, but he's still posting there re: the same things nearly 2 years later.<br /><br />Someone also mentioned the poster CR earlier. I remember that every thing she posted, no matter how positive she tried to make it, carried a deep tone of personal anguish and futility. But the mods just swept her threads under the rug, like an abusive school teacher silencing the voice of one of the 'slower' kids.<br /><br />It's saddening and irritating at the same time. But looking back I just feel lucky to have escaped it all.Lifebloomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-3442214777687241512012-03-28T03:03:32.933-04:002012-03-28T03:03:32.933-04:00If the "law of attraction" was as real a...If the "law of attraction" was as real as the law of gravity, why would you need to practice anything? Nobody has to practice gravity to make it work...<br /><br />I have, countless of times, felt shitty and depressed and yet have had wonderful things happen to me that I was never expecting to happen, and likewise have had times when I felt awesome and invincible and have had awful things happen anyway. This proves there is no law of attraction. <br /><br />Your thoughts do help create things, but only in that they can motivate you to get up and do something to reach a goal. If I think of orange juice and how I'd like some, that thought gets me to get up and grab my keys and drive to the grocery store and buy some. No magic involved! <br /><br />Having a positive attitude can really help in a lot of areas of life, but I've found being down and depressed sometimes can actually motivate you even more to try to reach a goal you've set for yourself. <br /><br />But the biggest proof of how silly (and wrong) the law of attraction is...is the idea that we can only attract good people in our lives if we are positive. That we can actually control other people's behavior just by visualizing them as we'd like them to be. Where does their free will come into the picture? <br /><br />It's an extremely narcissistic belief. You aren't God, you can't control others. Actually even God is not allowed to interfere with our free will, (if you believe in the traditional idea of God).<br /><br />If someone is extremely afraid that I'm going to steal their car or purse, will that make me do it? Now, I would never do that to anyone, friend or stranger, so where do I fit in this? According to the law of attraction, what you fear will manifest ("Always, It Is LAW," as Esther says). <br />Will your strong vibrations actually cause me to do something I don't want to do?<br /> <br />And I'm not a person who is closed to the idea of psychic phenomena or consciouness surviving death or even shaping our personal inner reality. But it's completely illogical to say that we can control others or the outside world by our vibrations or beliefs. Life just doesn't work that way.theoreticalgrrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01338496588249920286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-86614254257742599572012-03-15T22:05:07.060-04:002012-03-15T22:05:07.060-04:00Hey again Anonymous,
I certainly have had things ...Hey again Anonymous,<br /><br />I certainly have had things in my life (during my time with the Teachings of Abraham) that I considered great manifestations. I've also seen countless of people's claims of manifestations (as amazing as I think possible). However, I am also aware of the number of things (confirmation bias, coincidences, etc) that can trick us into believing that these things are absolute proof of whatever pseudoscience we want to believe in. Certainly, I've heard plenty of people who claim that their manifestations were clear proof of X, Y, or Z philosophy, but there were always other (perfectly reasonable) explanations for the manifestations.<br /><br />Also, I'm sure you recognize that no one relies on others more than those who's hypotheses come from authoritative voices like Abraham.kyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231777917185762352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-34930333369033266902012-03-15T21:47:51.125-04:002012-03-15T21:47:51.125-04:00What you're saying is it is *impossible* to pr...What you're saying is it is *impossible* to prove to oneself that LOA works. If you believe that, then there is no point in discussion. I didn't offer any information about the manifestations I have created. They were, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the outcome of my thoughts. The synchronicities were far too obvious. I say this having been raised in a very atheistic/agnostic, science-worshiping household. <br /><br />Perhaps you never encountered the startling amazing manifestations as I have. This is not to say my life is perfect... far from it. But if personal experience (including your own) would NEVER prove to you the reality of LOA then I guess you are at the mercy of others... "scientists" to prove to you a law that is as real as gravity. Good thing we don't need scientific analysis to keep us from ledges!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-44364543064829374682012-03-09T15:04:20.360-05:002012-03-09T15:04:20.360-05:00Hey Anonymous,
Thanks for the comment.
You say t...Hey Anonymous,<br /><br />Thanks for the comment.<br /><br />You say that you have proved to yourself that LOA works beyond a doubt. I will just say that there are those who believe that they have proved beyond a doubt that there is a God that punishes the sinful and rewards the devout. It doesn't mean that it actually the case. And they use the same sort of screwy logic to validate their reasoning. In the case of the person who believes in a wrathful God, if something bad happens to them, they assume that it must have occurred because they did or thought something sinful (maybe even something they weren't aware of). If something good happens, it's because they are on God's path. Regardless of what happens, they give credit to the wrathful God, thereby supporting their hypothesis of the wrathful God. <br /><br />Similarly, in the case of LOAers, if something that person considers to be pleasing happens, the LOAer assumes that their thoughts led to that, and they credit LOA for the manifestation. If something happens to them that they consider unpleasant, they assume there must have been some thought (even if they weren't aware of it) that led to that, and they credit LOA for the manifestation. <br /><br />In both cases, neither is doing a scientific analysis. They both are making a lot of assumptions (and not taking into account the clear confirmation bias in their assessment) about themselves and the world to reach their conclusion that they have proven LOA (or a wrathful God) beyond a doubt.kyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231777917185762352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-123576072330779822012-03-09T01:05:48.766-05:002012-03-09T01:05:48.766-05:00The LOA works. I have proved that to myself, beyon...The LOA works. I have proved that to myself, beyond a doubt. <br /><br />BUT... there are two "gotchas". <br /><br />One. It takes practice. For most of us, a lot of practice. A *LOT* of practice. Not only is it about simply thinking and getting in a better feeling place some of the time, it is about creating new neural pathways in the brain and the entire body. Aging is a *very* deeply ingrained "belief" and to counteract that (or ability to create an instant, painless natural death) was probably beyond Jerry's capacity. Doesn't mean the law isn't real and valid. It just means he wasn't able to do it because he hadn't practiced enough, didn't focus on it long enough, or it wasn't a high priority for him. And I can see the third aspect probably being most true... since physical "death" is something that Abe says all of us make way too much of and is truly nothing to fear. <br /><br />Secondly... most people are still focusing too much on their "mental" thoughts and their mental body while having a ton of stuff that is buried and repressed in their emotional body. THAT is the stuff that's getting reflected in our outer worlds "to our surprise." You can THINK all the positive thoughts you want but if you are not FEELING them or if you are pasting a happy-faced band-aid over a deep emotional wound, no movement of significance will occur in your life. That is the one aspect I do think that Abe glosses over. But Abe is going for the softer, gentler approach that can is more easily accessible to a wide group of people.<br /><br />Peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-80704598531206861612012-01-04T07:56:31.461-05:002012-01-04T07:56:31.461-05:00My name is Oleta. Sorry no account.
The scam fell...My name is Oleta. Sorry no account.<br /><br />The scam fell apart!<br />Last year quite a lot of teachers, had suddenly a different master.<br />5 of them incl the hickses as 1. <br />I'm no longer gonna use the name abraham.<br /><br />When I heard for the first time that jerry got sick, I thought wtf? Fix it you've always said you were almost always in vortex, so fix it. When I heard the word chemo, it was over and done from me. <br />Nobody gets cured from chemo(if we would get the REAL data).If you survive for now your cancer or should I say chemo, you are to badly damaged to live a "normal" longer life. My 2 cts. about the chemo.<br /><br />When Jerry died,I laughed, and I was done.<br /><br />They lost me a a while ago and i'm so glad i did not go to the UK. To see them.<br /><br />Why did they loose me?. <br />You had to be immaculate in your thoughts(no bad thoughts, stop thinking them now!), but you could eat every poison in the book as long your ass was in the vortex, you would not get sick.<br /><br />That's such BOLLOCKS!!!!!!<br /><br />I noticed By kicking out all the poisons in my life(food, detergents-cosmetics), go organic etc., my body build it self up again. <br />And I had better access to my brain, thoughts-> soul??? btw my body worked better as well<br />And it is actually plain logic.<br />Think and get thin sounded to much like sleep and loose weight, and that was a scam.<br /><br />You do not need anybody if you are willing to listen to your body and soul.<br /><br />That's what i have learned from the fallen teachers. I can do it-> myself and some research, Have a nice day. btw txs for this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-16968169795617682032011-12-24T15:49:36.524-05:002011-12-24T15:49:36.524-05:00I only saw the Hicks on a YouTube video once, talk...I only saw the Hicks on a YouTube video once, talking about money (hey, their favourite topic of conversation I understand), and my immediate gut reaction was that they were a pair of frauds. Some people will believe anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-69567917609591798382011-12-06T17:10:39.795-05:002011-12-06T17:10:39.795-05:00Hey Anonymous,
Don't worry. I'm not a sti...Hey Anonymous,<br /><br />Don't worry. I'm not a stickler for typos.<br /><br />I also think it's funny that Abers try to separate Esther and Jerry from Abraham--even though they say that Esther is translating it and the information is subject to her interpretation. That would mean that the information cannot be separated from her. She is an integral part in what is being said...theoretically.kyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231777917185762352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-34074598177473910362011-12-06T16:24:23.775-05:002011-12-06T16:24:23.775-05:00Yes, an appreciator's page would have been nic...Yes, an appreciator's page would have been nice. LOL I have lots more to say, but am working at the moment. <br /><br />Someone did try to post a week ago looking for answers as to Jerry's decision to accept chemo versus aligning with healing in which Abraham speaks. However, was locked with no apparent key. Funny that Jerry and Esther's private lives are off limits on that board, according to moderater, I mean newly appointed administrator, Marc. <br /><br />If I knew for a fact that higher-knowledge beings were speaking directly to me through my spouse, I would follow every word they were saying. That Jerry accepted chemo instead of listing to Abraham, is quite suspect (but then I don't have to tell you that). How can their personal lives be separated from their Abraham lives? They can't. One should clearly reflect the other. In this case, they do not. <br /><br />Oh, I have so much to say, just not enough time to do so. <br /><br />*Again, ignore typos..too much rushing and so much I want to say. LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-82623668785091657872011-12-06T13:46:26.701-05:002011-12-06T13:46:26.701-05:00Hey Anonymous,
Thanks for the comment.
The post...Hey Anonymous,<br /><br />Thanks for the comment.<br /><br /><i> The posters could tell her to align and tell her everything she was doing wrong when she desperately posted her unhappy situation on the forum, but once she followed through on the suicide, she was swept under the rug as if she never existed.</i><br /><br />You would have thought they would have made an appreciation page like they did for Jerry ; ). <br /><br />Yes, Abers are more than ready to dole out their unqualified psychological advice. In fact, what bothers me even more is that there are psychologists and counselors who actually encourage their patients to use the materials.kyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231777917185762352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-59587181841529223632011-12-06T12:19:53.867-05:002011-12-06T12:19:53.867-05:00This is an example of a suicide thread on the Abef...This is an example of a suicide thread on the Abeforum. This particular poster was seeming hitting rock bottom..It looks like instead of having her seek professional help for her many issues, they simply banned her...<br /><br />http://www.abeforum.com/showthread.php?20138-Do-you-think-suicide-is-the-ultimate-Not-being-gratefulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-68794917198816204392011-12-06T12:08:41.434-05:002011-12-06T12:08:41.434-05:00I am posting as anonymous because I don't have...I am posting as anonymous because I don't have the time to set up any sort of profile at the moment, nor do I actually have the time to type this, but here is a quite post, with more elaboration to follow. <br /><br />I had been on the Abeforum for a while now, and continually finding cause for, well, pause. Several things throughout the time of reading and posting didn't settle well with me. One of the standouts for me is the locks and constant monitoring (I actually sign on now for my daily entertainment looking for and reading only locked threads. It is actually funny now, so I guess I am living in JOY when I read the forum now? Anyway, from my understanding and reading quots, Abraham says not to push against something, not to try to control people. It is supposedly up to you to monitor your own vibration and set your own intention to that which you want and to align yourself with your intention. That seems to go right over the head of King David Gordon (my gag reflex seems to run in overdrive whenever I see him referred to as King David on that site). If King David Gordon was truly following Abraham's advice, he would know his practices of patrolling his forum was in direct conflict to the teachings of Abraham.<br /><br />Also, several people who post there are in need of more help that the "Abrahamsters" are qualified to dole out. As an example, people post about wanting to commit suicide and are met with positive reactions of aligning with source. I will see if a recent thread is still on the forum and will post it here, but a few years ago one such person, who did kill herself, was quickly taken off the forum, her profile reduced to guest, and we were not allowed to discuss it or mention her in any posts. If death is such a joyous occasion for the Abesters, why not celebrate one of their forum members who finally attained "alignment" after not finding the help she seeked on the Abeforum. I tried to post about it, but was quickly contacted by Jody, the mistress of the domain at the time. The posters could tell her to align and tell her everything she was doing wrong when she desperately posted her unhappy situation on the forum, but once she followed through on the suicide, she was swept under the rug as if she never existed. <br /><br />*Didn't proofread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-47452479087790195002011-12-03T14:46:57.588-05:002011-12-03T14:46:57.588-05:00Hey Anonymous,
Thanks for the comment. Regardless...Hey Anonymous,<br /><br />Thanks for the comment. Regardless of the physiological aspect of the placebo effect (which I certainly believe there is), that does not inherently mean that all diseases can be healed via the mind. Right now, most research shows that, while there is a physiological aspect (effects on hormones), there are few--if any--objective benefits (see Hróbjartsson and Götzsche).<br /><br />As for the books you mention as good starting places for scientific inquiry, they are really just good introductions to New Age woo. And while I certainly believe that thoughts create neural pathways, that does not inherently suggest that all of physical reality is bending to the whims of your thoughts. Also, athletes have used woo for a very long time to improve performance. That has more to do with the influence that woo has had on that industry than it does its efficacy of the processes they use.kyrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09231777917185762352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-70433956984833310612011-12-03T12:33:21.812-05:002011-12-03T12:33:21.812-05:00Please take note of current brain research confirm...Please take note of current brain research confirming that the "placebo effect" is physiological. Good starting places: "The Biology of Belief" by Bruce Lipton, "Why I Survive AIDS" by Niro Asistent, and "Anatomy of An Illness" by Norman Cousins. Then study any standard medical textbook on Psychoneuroimmunology. Any strong thought-trend that becomes a habit has actually created physiological neural pathways in the brain, as confirmed by recent breakthroughs in brain-scan technology. In general, it takes roughly 90-days to create such pathways. Notwithstanding semantic arguments, all of this may be subsumed under the phrase, "Law of Attraction" because any steady, unwavering, undivided thought process tends to be magnetic in nature, and this has been known for ages, long before Abraham came on the scene. This is also why so many college and professional athletic organizations spend so much money on their sports psychology staffs: to create in their athletes a determined, disciplined, passionate, single-minded focus on success, so that they may attract it to themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-246377353991411890.post-24609986390195138882011-12-03T06:24:25.046-05:002011-12-03T06:24:25.046-05:00Hi Kyra, if the abe materials make that claim the...Hi Kyra, if the abe materials make that claim then I think that is a a misinterpretation. Long before I ever heard of abe-hicks there were various other sources and materials that claim that people can fly, drive with their eyes closed; turn water into wine;and experience other "matrix" like events based loosely on quantum theory. While all of these things might be possible in certain contexts, nobody reads the fine print. You have to be able to resonate/vibrate/meditate yourself into some sort of state to accomplish some of this -hence the suggestion "try to release resistance and simply feel better". That way most people will see at least a little improvement in their lives. Some people are better at manifestation than others on various topics. It's just like anything else - if you think you can eat 5 lbs of donuts/day and lose weight - then you either have to spend the rest of the time "doing vibrational work in your head" or exercising here on planet earth. The problem with most people is that they are unwilling to do either, or just can't stick with either. They want to buy a CD, attend a seminar and have money, health and love rain from the sky without either the traditional physical effort required or by "doing the vibrational/psychological work" suggested.- AZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com