In The Astonishing Power of Emotions, New York Times best-selling authors Esther and Jerry Hicks announced that they were creating a four-part book series, including "The Law of Attraction: The Basics of the Teachings of Abraham; Relationships, and the Law of Attraction; Money, and the Law of Attraction; and Spirituality, and the Law of Attraction." The final installment, Spirituality, and the Law of Attraction, was to be released March of 2009, but since the announcement of this Law of Attraction tetralogy, the book has had a few delays.
The second book in the series, Money, and the Law of Attraction (released in August of 2008) set the release date for Spirituality, and the Law of Attraction in September of 2010 (18 months from the original release date):
In August of 2009, the third book in the series, Relationships, and the Law of Attraction, was published as The Vortex: Where Law of Attraction Assembles All Cooperative Relationships. It listed the release date for Spirituality, and the Law of Attraction as January of 2011.
Fifteen months later, the Hicks' meditation CD/booklet, Getting into the Vortex (published in November of 2010), put the release in August of 2011--nearly two and a half years from the original release date. It was also given a new title: Spirituality, and the Vortex of Attraction.
The latest release date for what is now titled The Spiritual Revolution, and the Law of Attraction was September 15th, 2011. Representatives at Hay House (the Hicks' publisher) confirm that the book has been delayed, but they don't know why. An Abraham Hicks Publications employee says there is no current release date for the book. One can only speculate as to whether or not this latest delay has anything to do with Jerry Hicks' cancer recovery. Regardless, it is interesting to note that the delay occurred the same month that Esther and Jerry sent a mass email to their fans, announcing that they would be taking a break from their Abraham LIVE workshops. David Stone discusses the Abraham LIVE hiatus in his article, "LIVE is Dead, Can the Abraham Hicks Scam Be Next?"
our group has been listening to a cruise series with Abraham. Though timeless lesson heard and read many times before I was looking online for newer things by them to see how the "conscious" has grown over the last 5 to 6 years. I stumbled across your words and blog. Though I understand and believe in channeling I wonder and feel little connection to the ones I have listened to though the messages are timeless and priceless.
ReplyDeleteSad to read of Jerry's cancer and sadder to read the attacks I guess more so because death and illness are facts of life not proof of anything else.
Will follow any more things you have to say on the subject as I search for clarification and some truth I guess also. I've found that many of the channels I'm hearing online pretty much teach and say the same things, just different delivery I guess.
Hey LadyJtalks,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment.
You said, "Sad to read of Jerry's cancer and sadder to read the attacks I guess more so because death and illness are facts of life not proof of anything else."
Abraham does not say that illness is a fact of life. Their materials teach that it is something you can prevent and treat with your understanding of LOA. The criticism that people, including myself, make are that Jerry has been promoting a system that claims to be able to treat and prevent illness solely through changing one's thoughts, and he was unable to do so.
I agree with you that death and illness are "facts of life." Abraham, on the other hand, believes that illness is proof of where you are vibrating.
You know what Kyra, you are a silly person and so are your blogs. At no point does Jerry claim to be jesus or a saint or an enlightened being.
ReplyDeleteIn fact if you read or heard the material properly you would also learn that many individuals choose these types of illnesses from their higher selves because of the expansion of consciousness that can only come from going through such an event.
There is so much that you need to learn Kyra, and you know how the law of attraction works honey, it so beautifully manifests and portrays in the world around you what you beliefs are and that is what happens to you, you look for the bad and that is all the universe can show you.
good luck
Hey Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI would like to point out that at no point in my blogs did I suggest that Jerry claimed "to be Jesus or a saint or an enlightened being."
Though I am familiar with this idea of illnesses being from people's "higher selves," I am more familiar with it within the context of other New Age gurus. Abraham will discuss how we may choose to enter into this body with a condition so that we may have a certain experience, but I have not heard recordings of them discussing how higher selves are choosing for us while we are in our physical bodies. Rather, I have heard them discussing how illness is just us pinching off the wellness.
Thank you for encouraging me to continue my education. I will certainly embark on a quest for more scientific knowledge. However, my interest in esoteric and unproven pseudosciences leaves a lot to be desired. And personally, I am not so impressed with this idea that beliefs dictate what happen to me. I've gone into plenty of movies expecting them to be awful and actually been pleasantly surprised.
Dear Kyra, Ahnalira and many others who are appalled by Abraham-Hickses etc.
ReplyDeleteI have been listening to Abraham-Hicks since the times of the Secret and I agree with those of you who said that there is a lot of good came out of this message. Like it or not, but they did bring a lot of changes and lot of hope to lives of thousands upon thousands of people. No matter how much you want to accuse them of being selfish and only caring about getting their fortune—their message helped so many more to do the same. I will not join your chorus of blamers, I am sorry, but I will not blame you either. This is your experience, that is how you are, that is how see. We are all different and we need different things to make us happy. Abraham-Hicks works for me just fine, as well as does Bashar and other entities with similar messages. You ask people to vote “Do you believe them?”, but doesn’t the ability to believe has to do more with ourselves than with those who we believe? By answering Yes of No we just diagnose ourselves, not them.
Yes, as all of you, I was shocked by the news of Jerry’s disease, as all of you I think that it is highly illogical that the person of that knowledge would have such an experience. That does not make sense. Unless we realize that not even Jerry was capable to hold himself in that “careless place”, that is meant to keep us away from all kinds of troubles. As well, I clearly remember listening to one of the YouTube videos, where Abraham was talking about Jerry once posing a question about the destiny of channellers, because he was convinced that they all “have a terrible end”. Wouldn’t it be more logical to attribute his disease to his thoughts, which is in perfect agreement with the LoA, which many are trying to call a heresy nowadays? Just give it a thought. I personally know that with years of practice of paying attention to my emotional state and recognizing thought patterns, I start seeing some confirmations to my state much faster than I did before. For example, happens that I think negatively about someone and later the same day I am put in the situation where I can be seen as behaving negatively in the same way without any intent to do so from my part. And the other way around. I think the notion of the ”stream of energy” going faster with years and practice is absolutely correct. That is why for me it is easy to see the confirmation of the LoA in Jerry’s case. He was afraid to have the” bad end” already long time ago, and probably quite strongly, with years fearing that it will disprove the work of his life and a lot was at stake for him. His energy moves fast, his fears bring the result accordingly. We just got a little insight into the content of his head, nothing more. So, they turned out to be imperfect, so what? How does that make the message less valuable?
I trust my gut feeling about people. I trust my instinct about Jerry and Esther. I saw their faces, I heard them speak. I trust that Jerry and Esther Hicks genuinely received a message from higher levels of energy and genuinely wanted make it available to others. That was a lot of information available for free on their site and on YouTube, nobody made those ppl to buy the books and CDs and attend the workshops. I do not buy the “greedy scammers” version.
I was almost about to write something like “shame on you people, who turn their backs on someone they idolized for 10-14 years when they need your support the most”, but what right do I have. I am only responsible for myself, my heart, my consciousness. And I am in harmony with those when posting this.
May everyone have a wonderful day.
Ilona.
Hey Ilona,
ReplyDeleteThanks for stopping by and commenting.
Dear Kyra, Ahnalira and many others who are appalled by Abraham-Hickses etc.
I think you misunderstand. Ahnalira is not appalled by Abraham-Hicks.
You ask people to vote “Do you believe them?”
I don't recall having ever done this.
...but doesn’t the ability to believe has to do more with ourselves than with those who we believe? By answering Yes of No we just diagnose ourselves, not them.
According to Abraham it does, but since I do not follow their logic, I would disagree. By calling a rapist a rapist, are we just diagnosing ourselves? I don't think so.
Wouldn’t it be more logical to attribute his disease to his thoughts, which is in perfect agreement with the LoA
Why would this be logical? A person who believes in a judgemental God could just as easily credit his illness to punishment for what they would consider to be Jerry's "evil" teachings. Are they right about Jerry being punished? No. They are just making an assumption based on their beliefs. People who believe in LOA are doing the same thing.
I personally know that with years of practice of paying attention to my emotional state and recognizing thought patterns, I start seeing some confirmations to my state much faster than I did before.
I believe that you see confirmation. It's called confirmation bias. It's when you look for evidence to support your idea and refuse to acknowledge evidence that works against it.
So, they turned out to be imperfect, so what? How does that make the message less valuable?
The message's value (or lack thereof) has less to do with Jerry's illness and more to do with the fact that it is unproven and unscientific.
I trust my gut feeling about people. I trust my instinct about Jerry and Esther. I saw their faces, I heard them speak. I trust that Jerry and Esther Hicks genuinely received a message from higher levels of energy and genuinely wanted make it available to others.
Plenty of people have used this same emotional reasoning to follow self-admitted frauds. It didn't change the fact that they were blindly following frauds.
I was almost about to write something like “shame on you people, who turn their backs on someone they idolized for 10-14 years when they need your support the most”, but what right do I have.
Interesting how you managed to weave it in regardless.
Thanks again for the comment.
Thank you for your answers to my comment, I appreciate that.
ReplyDeleteIsn't it interesting that, from my point of view, you have exactly the same stage of "confirmation bias" that you said I do with my manifestations of faster energy moving? You just picked up among my ideas those that you could reason with favorably to the desired by you results. Well done. If believing in something has the same value to you as "calling a rapist a rapist" then OK, I guess it is a valid argument after all. You are right. Or are you?
I know we are not(ever?)going to see eye to eye on many issues in life, I just felt like I had to voice my opinion, because otherwise, coming across your blog when trying to find out how things were with Jerry, I felt like stepping in a dark gloomy place. I really just couldn't read those accusations of yours without letting you know that I think you are doing a wrong thing. Yes, it is interesting how I managed to get in the middle of none of my business regardless... Must be a common human imperfection, Kyra.
Ilona.
Hey again Ilona,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your response.
Isn't it interesting that, from my point of view, you have exactly the same stage of "confirmation bias" that you said I do with my manifestations of faster energy moving? You just picked up among my ideas those that you could reason with favorably to the desired by you results.
Are you saying that I avoided some point in your previous post? If this is the case, just re-iterate your point.
Regardless, you have offered nothing to explain how an LOAers logic in confirming manifestations is any different than the logic of a person who believes in a punishing God.
If believing in something has the same value to you as "calling a rapist a rapist" then OK, I guess it is a valid argument after all. You are right. Or are you?
I'm not sure how you took my comment, but I think something was lost in translation. I was responding to your comment that reflected something to the effect that as we make a judgment, we are making a judgment about ourselves (which is how I took your statement, "By answering Yes of No we just diagnose ourselves, not them.") My point was that sometimes we are just stating a fact, like in the case when we call a rapist a rapist.
I know we are not(ever?)going to see eye to eye on many issues in life, I just felt like I had to voice my opinion, because otherwise, coming across your blog when trying to find out how things were with Jerry, I felt like stepping in a dark gloomy place. I really just couldn't read those accusations of yours without letting you know that I think you are doing a wrong thing. Yes, it is interesting how I managed to get in the middle of none of my business regardless... Must be a common human imperfection, Kyra.
I certainly was not meaning to imply that you shouldn't have commented. I am glad you did. It's nice that people are able to express so many different points of view here.
As for anything you are feeling from my blog, if you really buy into this Law of Attraction stuff, then what you feel coming from my blog is more of a reflection of where you are vibrating than it is where my blog is vibrating.
Hello again to you too Kyra,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your answers.
My message did not fit in one piece, so this is a part 1.
I will start by the end of your previous message where you cleverly point out that the feeling of gloominess must be somehow within my vibration, otherwise I would not stumble upon your blog. First of all, I think that yes, this must be the case, and not necessarily regarding only the same topic. I did feel a fair share of sadness about Jerry’s state and the fact of finding your blog fit just perfectly with the law of attraction. I guess, it will be the situation wrapped by Esther (or Abraham) in a sentence “oh, you don’t like this, so how about that”, meaning that amount of sadness caused initially by Jerry’s disease was definitely at least doubled after reading what you had to say about it. As well, following this logic, which you stated you do not share, but nonetheless feel at ease to use when it serves you, you must have been having doubts if you were doing the right thing. How about that then? Oh, let me guess –now you will say that you actually do not believe in LoA and, therefore, there is no connection between those two things from your point of view.
Now about “calling a rapist a rapist”. I was surprised when you paralleled my words about the act of believing being so-to-speak “in the heart of beholder” with this allegory, which for me represents a generalized ability of making a clear judgment about a person, based on his or hers behavior. From my point of view those two notions are unrelated and cannot be compared or used one against another. I also want to remind you that before ”calling a rapist a rapist” we have to be sure that that is exactly what he or she is. If we call an innocent person a rapist, because of our impression of them, or associations, or based on biased or partial information, or repeating after other ill-informed people, then we will be committing a crime. In this situation it seems to me that you are villainizing Esther and Jerry from behalf of those, who tell you that they actually “weren’t raped and did that on their own will” (you see where we got with your allegories? :)) But you say that no, those people cannot tell one thing from another and you can do it for them.
So, following this thought, I personally say that it is quite arrogant to feel sorry and want to “save” all those victimized by your blog people, who you believe are mislead. You understand, right, that you kind of telling them “you don’t know what you are doing, people”. Do you think they are narrow-minded, uneducated, limited people? Maybe a terrible childhood, history of abuse, nothing to look forward to? An easy prey for those charlatans who promise them everything for just “5.99 a day”? Come-on, look at those who sit at workshops—highly intelligent, fully adequate, often quite successful in many parts of their lives people. People are not stupid, Kyra. People are feeling, processing and analyzing information not less than you do. Especially those who are interested in non-orthodox approaches to life. Many of the teachings encourage one to look inside for the answers, think for oneself, never take anything for an ultimate truth unless it resonates with one’s own life experience. People are discerning and attentive to what they listen to and what they do nowadays in this flooded with information world.
To be continued…
Part 2.
ReplyDeleteYou have a right to like or dislike something, of course, as we all do. In this case—it’s your choice. But don’t feel sorry for those who do like the very thing you find disgusting. I, for one, will never eat or drink anything with licorice, but millions of people in the world seem to be pretty fond of it. It never entered my mind to feel sorry for them or to claim licorice a fraud, because its taste did not work for me.
As for the LoA and belief into a revengeful god—it is not one thing or another. Law of attraction allows for infinite number of beliefs and belief systems. Including the one about revengeful god. Interestingly enough, it does not go the other way around. So, according to the LoA, the person who believes in revengeful god and looks for the evidence of that to be true will find that evidence. That is the law of attraction in action. You see, Kyra, all your arguments are not working against LoA, they are just particular cases of the application of the same law. In order to call someone who believes in that delusional and those who teach it a fraud, you will need much stronger evidence.
And Jerry’s disease does not disprove LoA even a little. We all remember that Jerry held a belief about a “bad ending” of those involved in channeling, and Esther was afraid that Jerry will leave her. Within the framework of the LoA it all actually quite fits together, even if it sadly makes us to realize that those patterns of thoughts are still present. We cannot disregard this information if we really what to talk about whether or not the LoA works.
So, it seems like that your LoA-hate-basis is really quite empty. And it feels that you are the one playing on people emotions, triggering their feeling of vulnerability. Every marketing person will tell you that emotion sells. Especially fear. You are selling fear, Kyra, and insecurity. You are telling people that they are nobody and don’t understand a thing in life. That their lives are not in their hands, and those who tell them otherwise are liars. You are taking power from them and promise in return your commiseration and angst. You are telling them that the results that they are seeing with their own eyes, the improvement in their lives are just illusions. You are cutting their wings, Kyra. It is a lot of responsibility, you know. Are ready to take it?
Ilona.
Hey again Ilona,
ReplyDeleteBecause of the length of your post, I've summed up my response. If there is something you want to touch upon that I have not included here, feel free to bring it up again. I have not responded to the rapist analogy because it seems we are unable to reconcile the misunderstanding that has led to it taking up more than enough space within our comments, and it is clear that we are not even slightly discussing the same thing.
Regarding your statements about me needing to disprove LOA, this is reversed burden of proof. In science, it is your job, as the person making the claim about LOA, to prove that LOA does exist. It isn't the skeptic's job to prove that it does not exist. I don't have to track down every phony in the world and prove them wrong. They have to prove that they are right.
And I would like to say that I do not believe that people who believe in Abraham or ideas like theirs are stupid, narrow-minded, and/or uneducated (and I have emphasized this repeatedly throughout the blog). I studied Abraham for many years myself and was educated, quite open-open minded, and studied, and I know many other Abers who were the same. I do not think that these things are the reasons why people choose to buy into Abraham's message (or other ridiculous ideologies). There were intelligent people in the Spiritualist era who followed self-admitted and outed frauds. There are intelligent people who believe doomsday prophets. There are intelligent people who think aliens are abducting humans and impregnating them with alien babies. Intelligence is not a fail-safe from believing ridiculous things.
In your licorice example, you say that just because I don't like something doesn't mean I have to call it fraudulent. To that I would say: if I was given licorice and told by someone that it would cure me of cancer, and it did not, then I would be inclined to warn others of the person who sells licorice as a cancer-cure...because that's dangerous and harmful and extends beyond just not liking the way something tastes.
You say “Every marketing person will tell you that emotion sells.” However, I marvel at how you think I am the one selling emotion when it is clear that Esther and Jerry's work is selling emotional highs and fixes. Later, you say, “You are telling people that they are nobody and don’t understand a thing in life. That their lives are not in their hands, and those who tell them otherwise are liars.” To this, I respond by saying: to tell people that they do not have ABSOLUTE control over all things in life is not the same thing as saying that they have NO CONTROL over their lives. And I do not believe that everyone who tells them otherwise are liars.
You are telling them that the results that they are seeing with their own eyes, the improvement in their lives are just illusions. You are cutting their wings, Kyra. It is a lot of responsibility, you know. Are ready to take it?
How is there responsibility involved? I just clip 'em and run.
Did you hear of Jerry Hick's passing yesterday?
ReplyDeleteHey Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYes, I heard about his passing. I don't want to post about it like a tabloid, so I want to use discretion before posting.
Hello IIona. You said "coming across your blog when trying to find out how things were with Jerry, I felt like stepping in a dark gloomy place." -- IIona
ReplyDeleteSince you believe in LOA, then why did you attract dark and gloom into your life?
"I really just couldn't read those accusations of yours without letting you know that I think you are doing a wrong thing." -- IIona
And I think she is doing the right thing. Would you try to talk your niece or nephew out of hopping on that plane ride and moving to Jonestown with Jim Jones? Or would you simply smile as they drank the toxic Kool-Aide? No pun intended, it really did happen: http://www.infoplease.com/spot/jonestown1.html
Anyway, my "gut" tells me that Kyra is doing the right thing and exposing this scam to others. My "gut" also tells me that Esther Hicks is a fraud and no different than Jim Jones. My "gut" says to stay away from her & help warn others of her empire of evil. All Hicks does is make up unverifiable claims that she knows will make people with money feel good about themselves. The fact that there are only two active bloggers trying to expose this lie is troubling to me -- is humanity that bad off? Are we living in a land with elves, trolls, and goblins? Where magic potions have more validity than reason?
Kyra, keep up the great work!